Monday, March 09, 2015

War between Christian Nations and Muslim Nations: A Table Talk between an American Economist and Young Muslims in Indonesia


War between Christian Nations and Muslim Nations: A Table Talk between an American Economist and Young Muslims in Indonesia

By Julio Severo
In the early 1970s, economist John Perkins was in Indonesia and had an interesting table talk with some young Muslims, reported in his book “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man [Berrett-Koehler Publishers: 2004], pp. 45-46.”
Their talk:
Muslim young woman: “Back in the fifties he [Arnold Toynbee] predicted that the real war in the next century would not be between Communists and capitalists, but between Christians and Muslims.”
Perkins: “Arnold Toynbee said that?” I was stunned.
Muslim young woman: “Yes. Read Civilization on Trial and The World and the West.”
Perkins: “But why should there be such animosity between Muslims and Christians?” I asked.
Looks were exchanged around the table. They appeared to find it hard to believe that I could ask such a foolish question.
Muslim young woman: “Because,” she said slowly, as though addressing someone slow-witted or hard of hearing, “the West—especially its leader, the U.S. —is determined to take control of all the world, to become the greatest empire in history. It has already gotten very close to succeeding. The Soviet Union currently stands in its way, but the Soviets will not endure. Toynbee could see that. They have no religion, no faith, no substance behind their ideology. History demonstrates that faith—soul, a belief in higher powers—is essential. We Muslims have it. We have it more than anyone else in the world, even more than the Christians. So we wait. We grow strong.”
Muslim young man: “We will take our time,” one of the men chimed in, “and then like a snake we will strike.”
These young Muslims could see, and Toynbee could see too, according to them, the fall of the Soviet Union. They could see far beyond too: a future battle between the Islamic world and the Christian world.
John Perkins was, according to his own book, in Indonesia in a special operation. He had been hired as an EHM (Economic Hit Man), to persuade countries to take out loans worth billions of dollars, often to pay for infrastructure projects that the EHMs themselves recommend, making these countries to incur debts they would never be able to pay off.
Yet, the biggest ever special operation, which Perkins could not envision, was Barack Hussein Obama.
Obama also lived in Indonesia, in the late 1960s, because his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, after divorcing Barack Obama Sr. (a Marxist Muslim), moved to Indonesia after marrying another Muslim: Indonesian Lolo Soetoro.
According to Wayne Madsen, not only Dunham worked to CIA, including in a cover operation in Indonesia, but her son, today’s President Obama, was a CIA creation.
If this is so, the real war predicted by Toynbee to happen in our century between Christian nations and Muslim nations will never happen.
With Obama as U.S. president, the U.S. government and military power have been surrendering themselves more and more to Muslim interests. Yet, this selling-out did not begin today. Perkins exposes not only that the U.S. and Saudi Arabia have had massive financial connections since the 1970s, but also that Saudi Arabia is the epicenter of terrorist financing. This is, the most important Muslim ally of America is the most important financing source of Islamic terrorism around the world.
How did “Christian” America and Europe come to succumb to Islamic petrodollars?
Because of massive Saudi and other Muslim financial investments in Europe, especially from Islamic dictatorships, Europeans have been surrendering themselves to a relentless Islamic invasion, disguised as immigration.
Islamic invasion is winning: at the White House, in Europe, etc.
By the way, no war between Christian nations and Muslim nations will be necessary, because the Christian world has been religiously weak and the Muslim world has been religiously strong. Obama Hussein Obama at the White House is evidence of a debilitated Christianity and strengthened Islam.
The Islamic world, especially Saudi Arabia, would never accept a pro-Christian president with a Christian name. But America, and the Western world, has welcomed a pro-Islam president with a Muslim name. Who is losing? Who is winning?
All of them (Perkins and the young Muslims) would have been utterly stunned if told of a 21-century Western world, especially the U.S., leading an aggressive international propaganda campaign presenting Islam — the greatest murder machine in history — as a “religion of peace.”
A “peace” bought by petrodollars. Its real cost is the slow death of the Christian culture in the U.S. and Europe.
There is a real ongoing war against the Christian civilization and Christian populations, including through Islamic terrorism, but there have been no fighting back from nations with a Christian past, especially America (the largest Protestant nation in the world) and Brazil (the largest Catholic nation in the world).
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