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Monday, July 13, 2020

Greg Laurie assured us that Pastor Jarrid Wilson, who committed suicide, went directly to Heaven. By his turn, Wilson had assured us that the communist terrorist Nelson Mandela was a good example


Greg Laurie assured us that Pastor Jarrid Wilson, who committed suicide, went directly to Heaven. By his turn, Wilson had assured us that the communist terrorist Nelson Mandela was a good example

By Julio Severo
Jarrid Wilson, who committed suicide on September 9, 2019, after officiating at the funeral of a woman who had also killed herself, was a minister at Harvest Christian Fellowship, where Greg Laurie is the senior minister. His church is a member of Southern Baptists.
Jarrid Wilson, wife and sons
Laurie assured that Wilson “is at home in the arms of Jesus.”
On September 23, Brazilian pastor Lisandro Canes also committed suicide, after complaining of “burn-out and tiredness” and sharing the news about Wilson’s suicide. A bad example, glamourized by others, led to bad consequences.
The reasoning behind these suicides seems very simple: Heaven is good and if suicide, now glamourized by famous pastors, is a shortcut to Heaven, then let us kill ourselves if God refuses to take us home soon.
Instead of imitating men of God in the Bible who through Christ defeated depression and suicide, today leaders exalt men who are defeated by depression and suicide.
In Wilson’s case, Laurie assured that he suffered mental health issues.
I have no doubt that Wilson suffered mental health issues. In his article titled “Top 10 Nelson Mandela Quotes” published in 2013, Wilson wrote: “In his honor, here is a list of the Top 10 Nelson Mandela Quotes.” If you publish one quote of some man it is because you admire him. But if you publish an article with 10 quotes, it is a solid admiration.
Ronald Reagan, a pro-life evangelical president, deserved to have 10 quotes or more from American pastors.
But did Mandela deserve such solid admiration from Christians, especially pastors?
Mandela and his African National Congress were about to turn South Africa into a violent Marxist, communist country in the Soviet or Cuban model, “when they were bought off by the [socialist] American Democratic Party and big multi-national business who showered the new black rulers with wealth and power, and, above all, with favorable international media coverage,” according to Rodney Atkinson. They were bought off by the Western Left. The result? They became a violent socialist nation in the Western model.
Under the spell of this socialist model, South Africa has been implementing moral decadence as no other African nation has done. For Mr. Atkinson, Mandela has a murderous legacy. In 1996, Mandela endorsed one of world’s most liberal abortion laws.
The same year, Mandela’s new constitution made, according to LifeSiteNews, South Africa the first country in the world to place “sexual orientation” alongside race and religion as a restricted grounds for discrimination — something that was instrumental for the legalization of homosexual “marriage” a decade later.
Yet, Jarrid Wilson did not see any problem in Mandela, in his violent communist history and in his violent legacy. South Africa is now a champion of rapes and murders.
If mental health issues hinder a mental sick from seeing a communist the way he is, then Wilson did suffer mental health issues.
Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a psychiatrist and author of the acclaimed book “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness,” explains that only a sick mind makes people support communist leaders. If Wilson had not killed himself, he should read Rossiter’s book.
Even though Wilson did not point accusatory fingers at Mandela, who was a nominal Methodist (just as pro-abortion Hillary Clinton is), he pointed a lot of accusatory fingers at American Christians for their alleged lack of love and compassion to sinners, especially homosexuals. Yet, who said that Mandela’s communist activities, history and legacy actually represented Christ’s love?
In his article titled “Why ‘Hate the Sin, Not the Sinner’ Isn’t Working” published in 2014, Wilson said,
“The ideology of, ‘hate the sin, not the sinner’ has NOT converted well in today’s culture. If you take a moment to look around, you’ll notice that we are very good at showing hate to the people whom God has called us to love.”
So he used his own philosophy to condemn the church and love Mandela.
In his article titled “Christians Are Failing at Showing Love to the LGBT Community” published in 2015, Wilson said,
“It hurts my heart to see how many pastors and leaders are wrongfully handling the LGBT conversation, and I believe that coming back to heart of compassion is what’s needed most. There are so many people who are handling this conversation correctly, and I wish more people would follow suit in the name of Jesus. Regardless of what side of the conversation you find yourself landing on, your commandment to love people and share truth in a loving way remains the same. Love well.”
Progressive Christians always focus on love. And they just love Mandela.
In his article titled “Gay Straight Or Purple” published in 2013 — in the same year he praised Mandela —, Wilson said,
“I know a handful of people who are gay, go to church, and in fact show the presence of Jesus’ love more than most self-proclaimed ‘straight’ Christians do.”
Progressive Christians love socialism, socialists and twist the word “love” for the sake of their progressive religion.
I wonder what Jarrid thought of the two witnesses in Revelation 11. Certainly, they did not preach a love message. Their message was prophetic. The Bible says that when these two witnesses were killed “The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.” (Revelation 11:10 NIV)
It hurts my heart to see pastors using Mandela and other communists as good examples.
Do you know what else hurts my heart and God’s heart? To see a minister lecturing the church about love and killing himself, leaving his young sons completely abandoned when God’s Word says,
“If anyone doesn’t take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the Christian faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” (1 Timothy 5:8 GWV)
Do you know what else hurts my heart and God’s heart? Jarrid Wilson was not prepared to be a minister at Harvest Christian Fellowship. Even so, he was ordained to lead in this mega-church.
Do you know what else hurts my heart and God’s heart? That Wilson treated the church with excessive harshness and Mandela with excessive love, when Mandela was the perfect representative of a rotten church.
Do you know what else hurts my heart and God’s heart? That Greg Laurie has been soft with Wilson’s suicide and his irresponsibility to his young sons. That Laurie has used his suicide to encourage evangelicals to treat people with suicidal thoughts as people with mental health issues not to blame for their bad decisions against themselves and their innocent families.
The bad news is that this soft stance to suicide has nothing to do with the Gospel, which has nothing to do with demons who whisper suicidal thoughts in the heads of people. This has to do with socialism, which wants no one taking responsibility for their own bad actions.
So the criminal raped children because he has mental health issues. So says the socialist argument. Or the criminal robbed and killed because society led him to do these horrible things, according to socialism.
In socialist ideology, no one takes responsibility for his own actions. The criminal stole, raped and killed because of society. And now does the pastor kill himself and irresponsibly abandon his small children because of “mental illness”?
Socialized gospel follows the same pattern by making ministers who chose to commit suicide and abandon their young children not responsible for their bad decisions and irresponsibility.
You cannot forget that Jarrid Wilson was a champion of the campaign to convince the evangelical community that suicidal thoughts should considered just a medical issue. So he lived constantly under medical treatment and recommending this treatment to others. He lived under antidepressants and other pharmaceutical drugs. If anything, his example shows clearly the uselessness of psychology and psychiatry to treat as a medical issue demonic whisperings of suicide in the head of a minister. What happened to the deliverance ministry?
Why so much dependence on psychology and psychiatry for soul issues that God has solved for centuries? I understand why the antidepressants Jarrid used did not help him. A Telegraph report headline said, “Most common antidepressant barely helps improve depression symptoms, ‘shocking’ trial finds.” I just do not understand how, being a minister, Jarrid did not let God take care of him.
Very regrettable that he saw psychologists and psychiatrists as answers for problems not impossible for the Holy Spirit to solve. In fact, psychologists and psychiatrists can offer the “perfect” drugs for everything. A DailyMail report headline said, “Jeffrey Epstein’s victims claim he paid doctors and psychiatrists to prescribe Xanax and lithium to medicate his ‘sex slaves’ while they were being trafficked.” Epstein was the pedophile billionaire who preyed and raped teen girls. Then he referred his victims to psychologists and psychiatrists to help them cope with the sexual abuses he inflicted on the poor girls.
Do not accuse me of being judgmental about Jarrid’s stances, because he was constantly judgmental about the church, eternally accusing that the church had no love and compassion. If the church had no love, what did communist Protestant Mandela have? Just love for socialism.
I am very sorry for the innocent young sons of Jarrid whom he chose to abandon. And I am indignant at ministers who are excusing his irresponsibility to his sons.
You are not to blame if demons whisper murder, abortion, adultery, homosexuality and suicide in your head. But you are to blame if you implement demons’ orders.
I wonder what Mandela-loving Jarrid thought about the promised anointing of Elijah for the last days, our days. Elijah’s ministry was not about love, but condemning prophetically the evils in this world. Would not Christians with such anointing today condemn Christians who use Mandela as a good example?
Sadly, Greg Laurie used Elijah and other biblical characters as people with mental health issues to justify Jarrid’s suicide. Even though in some point, because of extreme persecution, they thought about departing from this world, no one of them contemplated the idea of killing themselves. So they are a good example against suicide.
The only example fitting the case of those who killed themselves was Jude, who committed suicide for remorse.
Nevertheless, Greg Laurie is reinforcing the bad idea that Jarrid’s suicide is an example that pastors should seek psychological and psychiatric treatment, just as Jarrid did, to address demonic attacks. What has happened to the church that was originally empowered to expel every kind of demons?
If I published 10 quotes of communist Nelson Mandela, I would be showing to the world and God how carnal Christian I am. What is the problem with a carnal Christian using antidepressants, psychologists, psychiatrists, admiring communist Mandela and, in the end, killing himself?
Suicide among God’s people in the Bible was not normal. It was a sure sign of carnality and rebellion against God. Jude is just a famous example. Why should suicide be today normal when there is the sure promise of the Comforter for those who believe in Christ? How can a pastor who says that the Comforter lives in him give heed to demons who whisper suicide thoughts in his head?
Those who replace the Comforter and his powerful spiritual resources with psychologists, psychiatrists and their useless pharmaceutical drugs will have a very hard time to deal with suicide demons. Not to mention that it is impossible to follow the Holy Spirit and love communist Mandela at the same time. Should it be any surprise if a pastor who admires a communist terrorist has suicidal thoughts?
Any Christian compromising the true Gospel for the sake of socialists and homosexualists have mental and spiritual troubles.
Yet, in the case of Jarrid Wilson, who was put in the pastoral staff of the mega-church Harvest Christian Fellowship, he denounced in many articles that the church lacked love. But his words did not match his actions. He abandoned two innocent young children. He lacked love for his children and wife.
When a man abandons his young children, you call him a cowardly, selfish, irresponsible and even criminal man. Why should be different regarding a pastor who abandons his little children through suicide? Greg Laurie was extremely irresponsible for putting such a man in his pastoral staff knowing very well that he had a history of depression and suicidal thoughts. Jarrid should never have had any pastoral post or any other post in any church. I hope that Greg’s denomination may apply to him some discipline for his irresponsibility.
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Monday, September 16, 2019

To Justify the Suicide of a Pastor at Harvest Christian Fellowship, Greg Laurie Uses Prophet Elijah as an Example. But Can Elijah Be Used as an Example for People with Depression and Suicide Thoughts?


To Justify the Suicide of a Pastor at Harvest Christian Fellowship, Greg Laurie Uses Prophet Elijah as an Example. But Can Elijah Be Used as an Example for People with Depression and Suicide Thoughts?

By Julio Severo
“We can glory in the fact that we know our brother, our friend, Pastor Jarrid Wilson, is at home in the arms of Jesus,” declared Greg Laurie, senior pastor at Harvest Christian Fellowship, in a sermon on September 15, 2019, in regard to Wilson, who committed suicide on September 9, 2019, after officiating at the funeral of a woman who had also killed herself.
Greg Laurie
Greg paid heartfelt tribute to Wilson, noting that he was “positive, vibrant, and always serving and helping others.”
Greg raised some good points, including “One dark moment in a Christian’s life cannot undo what Christ did for us on the cross.” This is an excellent point. But would it also apply if Wilson had committed any other sin, including murder of his wife or sex abuse against a child? Would he be saved?
I have no answer, but Greg seems to have all the answers in the case of suicide: Pastors who kill themselves go up directly to Heaven.
A not so pleasant point is that: Isn’t cowardice for a man to abandon, for suicide or not, two innocent young children? Jarrid Wilson, who was 30, had two young sons. Could he not think in his responsibilities as a father?
Jarrid Wilson, wife and sons
Another not so much pleasant point is that in his tribute to Jarrid Greg confessed “He also dealt with very deep depression. It actually went back to his childhood, and he was under a doctor’s care.”
If Greg knew Jarrid had “very deep depression,” why did he put him in his pastoral staff? Jarrid led the young adult ministry at Harvest Christian Fellowship. I wonder what these young adults are thinking right now.
Jarrid was not to blame for having pastoral responsibilities in such mega-church. He who ordained him, knowing his clear history of “very deep depression” and suicide thoughts, is accountable to God.
Interestingly, Greg’s sermon in tribute to Jarrid was titled “Hope Gets the Last Word!” But this is a contradiction. People who kill themselves lost all hope, including in God.
We cannot be judges to say that all people committing suicide go to Hell or that they go automatically to Heaven if they are ministers, as strongly suggested by Greg.
Greg’s sermon, in the midst of an abundant encouraging tribute to Jarrid, found a place to say, “Suicide is the WRONG choice.” He added, “If you are having suicidal thoughts, you need professional help.”
But had not Jarrid sought professional help — psychologists and psychiatrists — all his lifetime? Since his childhood he had such professional help. Did it help him?
Even so, he founded Anthem of Hope, a group offering professional help to people with mental health issues — depression and suicidal thoughts.
So, even after following the exact instruction that Greg gave — seeking professional help for decades —, Jarrid ignored all his own “positive, vibrant, and always serving and helping others” testimony, especially ignoring the total fragility and defenseless state of his young sons, and, against all hope, chose suicide. Is this altruism? Does “to seek professional help” work? It did not work at all for Jarrid.
Greg’s tribute to Jarrid justified his condition and suicide by pointing out that several leading Biblical figures suffered from debilitating depression and mental health issues. “Job wished he had never been born. Jeremiah, at least on one occasion, wanted to die. Jonah wanted to die too,” Greg said.
But no one of them committed suicide. In God’s Word all the suicide cases involved people in rebellion against God. Jude is only one of the examples.
Greg also used the Prophet Elijah as an example of deep depression. “Elijah was a great prophet of God, but he dealt with severe depression and came to the point where he wanted to die,” he said.
But did Elijah wanted to kill himself? Did his case involve suicide thoughts?
“Surely if Elijah saw a physician or a psychologist, he would not escape an inpatient referral, and he would be considered a patient at serious risk of suicide,” said Marisa Lobo, a Brazilian author who identifies herself as a Christian psychologist.
I agree about psychologists seeing the need to admit Elijah to a psychiatric hospital. It would be enough for Elijah to tell psychologists and psychiatrists that he heard God’s voice and saw angels and that’s it: They would put him in a straitjacket and inject their psychiatric drugs into him.
Marisa uses Elijah in her speeches about people who want to kill themselves. Suicidal people hear voices to kill themselves. Elijah did hear a voice, but that voice did not direct him to kill himself. Would Christian psychologists defend a psychiatric hospitalization to cure Elijah of hearing God’s voice? Do they also think that psychiatric treatment “cures” people from hearing demonic voices directing them to kill themselves?
If Jesus and the apostles knew that psychiatric hospitalization and drugs “cure” people of hearing demonic voices they would never cast out demons. They would travel forward in time and ask today’s Christian psychologists how to graduate in psychology to deal with the multitudes of people with demonic oppression — psychiatric problems.
Yet, modern psychology would not recommend hospitalization only for Elijah. Christian psychologists could also fall victim to their own profession: It would be enough for them to say that homosexuality is sin, abomination, and perversion, as the Bible says, and they would be diagnosed as insane in need of hospitalization.
Who said that psychology is a consensus among Christians?
The Popular Encyclopedia of Apologetics (published by Publisher Harvest House Publishers) by Ed Hindson says:
There are over 300 counseling models today. In that mix of psychological theories are many secular views of counseling that adamantly disagree with each other. We must remember that Freud, Jung, Skinner, and Rogers all had serious philosophical differences.
One fact we cannot ignore about endeavors to integrate psychology and faith is that psychology is founded in secular humanism. That may sound simplistic, but it is true. All of psychology, whether it is labeled primitive or modern, secular or religious, is founded in secular humanism and embellished by the philosophies of man. The very core of all psychology is rooted in what man thinks and believes about the human life apart from the eternal Word of God. Psychology may use some biblical principles in its theories, but largely the theories of psychology are philosophically determined by human standards.
Psychology and theology have never been comfortable bedfellows. Their basic philosophic presuppositions are almost diametrically opposed to each other. Both presume to speak to the fundamental human condition and to suggest cures for the inner conflicts of person.
Since Greg Laurie thinks that it is so important for depressed people to seek professional psychological assistance that treats depression or anguish of the soul as mental illness, let’s look at what secular literature has to say. In his article “Study: Psychiatric Diagnoses Are ‘Scientifically Meaningless’ In Treating Mental Health,” published on July 9, 2019 on Study Finds, John Anderer wrote:
a new study conducted at the University of Liverpool has raised eyebrows by concluding that psychiatric diagnoses are “scientifically meaningless,” and worthless as tools to accurately identify and address mental distress at an individual level.
According to the study’s authors, the traditional diagnostic system being used today wrongly assumes that any and all mental distress is caused by a disorder, and relies far too heavily on subjective ideas about what is considered “normal.”
“Perhaps it is time we stopped pretending that medical-sounding labels contribute anything to our understanding of the complex causes of human distress or of what kind of help we need when distressed.” Professor John Read comments.
The study is published in the scientific journal Psychiatry Research.
This study was also published by conservative WorldNetDaily.
Let us now understand the context of “Elijah’s depression,” so used by Christian ministers and psychologists when talking about ministers killing themselves.
As we pro-life Christians today confront the culture of abortion (murder of babies) and homosexuality, we often forget that men of God in the Bible also faced a similar culture.
Baal, a pagan god whose priests were homosexual and practiced “sacred” homosexuality, demanded the sacrifice of newborn babies.
The most striking example of prophetic confrontation with god Baal comes from the prophet Elijah.
After Elijah confronted and defeated 450 Baal prophets in a dispute, the Bible says:
“And Elijah said to them, ‘Seize the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape.’ And they seized them. And Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon and slaughtered them there.” (1 Kings 18:40 ESV)
Beheading is cutting off the head. Cutting off the head, with his own hands, of 450 men was an overwhelmingly tiring task. I would be tired of beheading only 50 Baal prophets. But Elijah did it with almost 500.
After this tiring work, the Bible says:
“Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying, ‘So may the gods do to me and more also, if I do not make your life as the life of one of them by this time tomorrow.’” (1 Kings 19:2 ESV)
Jezebel, wife of King Ahab, was the queen. If she said she wanted Elijah dead, then the whole country would be hunting Elijah for her to behead him.
Tired and discouraged by such violent persecution, Elijah fled. The Bible reports:
“But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness and came and sat down under a broom tree. And he asked that he might die, saying, ‘It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life, for I am no better than my fathers.’” (1 Kings 19:4 ESV)
Suffering such persecution, Elijah wanted God to take him. If there were some wish to kill himself, he wouldn’t even have to ask for anything. He just would take a weapon and use it. But his idea was never to kill himself.
Elijah was a man who used to cry out to God incessantly. And God always hears men of prayer. He always acts supernaturally in response to men of prayer.
This is where in the Bible God simplifies everything by bringing an angel. Just for starters. Then Elijah ended up in a cave where he heard God’s own voice. Although this simple answer has been in the Bible for centuries and millennia, humans are there to complicate everything. As always.
Christian psychologists always manage to slip Elijah’s case into their subject about depressive people who want to kill themselves.
They always call Elijah “depressive.” Marisa Lobo compared the cave where Elijah stayed to a psychiatric hospital, where the patient receives food and medicine.
Marisa’s comparison is far from the biblical meaning because Elijah was not given any medicine and the cave was far from being a hospital. In fact, if a depressed person today were to end up in a cave without water and light, he would get even more depressed.
Marisa was wrong to label Elijah depressive, as if from time to time he were in a state of depression. Absolutely nothing in the Bible suggests that Elijah had regular bouts of depression.
If an isolated episode of soul anguish caused by great political persecution turns, in the eyes of Christian psychologists, Elijah into “depressive,” then everyone in the Bible was depressive. In this “clinical” definition, how many Christians escape being labeled “depressive”?
In fact, Elijah was not depressive. He suffered great persecution, as all the great men of God suffer, and was in anguish of soul at that particular time. Labeling Elijah as depressive just to garnish a psychological speech about suicide or a tribute sermon to a pastor who killed himself is to keep Elijah in a permanent or almost permanent state of depression. This was never the case with Elijah. The Bible simply gives no margin for this kind of interpretation.
As for saying, even by comparison, that the cave would be a psychiatric hospital with medications for patients suffering depression, the complication only gets more complicated.
The scientific website BMJ, in its article “Antidepressants increase the risk of suicide, violence and homicide at all ages,” reports that antidepressant drugs:
are very dangerous; otherwise daily monitoring wouldn’t be needed: “Families and caregivers of patients should be advised to look for the emergence of such symptoms on a day-to-day basis, since changes may be abrupt”… “All patients being treated with antidepressants for any indication should be monitored appropriately and observed closely for clinical worsening, suicidality, and unusual changes in behavior, especially during the initial few months of a course of drug therapy, or at times of dose changes, either increases or decreases. The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants.”
BMJ added:
Such daily monitoring is, however, a fake fix. People cannot be monitored every minute and many have committed SSRI-induced suicide or homicide within a few hours after everyone thought they were perfectly okay.
BMJ also says:
It can no longer be doubted that antidepressants are dangerous and can cause suicide and homicide at any age (5-7). It is absurd to use drugs for depression that increase the risk of suicide and homicide…
In a recent Daily Mail report about antidepressant drugs, Dr. Michael Hengartner of the University of Zurich, Switzerland, said, “We can be confident that these drugs are producing an excess rate of suicides, beyond the depression itself.”
If instead of receiving the angel’s visit and hearing God’s voice, Elijah had been given some antidepressants pills, he could have actually killed himself or killed someone else, especially in a melancholic cave!
The cave did not increase the anguish of Elijah’s soul only because he was already receiving visitations from God, with angels and the supernatural voice of God.
However, try to imagine the scene if, as Christian psychologists want, Elijah had been admitted to a psychiatric hospital. All he had to say was that he saw an angel and heard God speak and psychiatrists would recommend injections of their psychiatric drugs — not to mention a straightjacket. A mental hospital would make Elijah sick in body and soul. It would be the worst misfortune in his life. Hospitalized in such a place he would ask God to take him soon.
I am totally in favor of Christian psychologists who take the Bible into their offices and use psychology only as an ornament of the essential biblical message. But taking psychology and its tricks into the churches and using the Bible as an ornament of psychology creates aberrations like turning Elijah’s cave into a psychiatric hospital with antidepressants that, instead of helping, carry the risk of making patients kill themselves or practice violence, including murder.
In conclusion, what does all this biblical and scientific information show us?
* Elijah did not live in a condition of frequent depressive crises, but he was depressed at a specific point in his life because of the death threat from a high government official.
* Antidepressant pills, which can cause suicide, violence and murder, cannot be placed on the same level of importance as visiting angels and the voice of God.
* Elijah’s inhospitable cavern without light and water was not a psychiatric hospital to cure depressive patients, who would become even more depressive in such a melancholic environment.
I really doubt that a psychological speech within the church using the Bible just as a garnish has a positive effect. Greg Laurie and Jarrid Wilson treated depression as a medical mental health problem in their sermons. They always recommended referring depressed people to psychologists and psychiatrists. And what happened? Jarrid killed himself, abandoning two young children.
Even though he was single, Elijah never thought of suicide. Yet, if he had small children, not only would he not think of suicide, but he would never ask God to take him either. He would never leave his little children abandoned.
Elijah was no different from Jarrid, me, or Greg. The Bible says:
“Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working. Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed fervently that it might not rain, and for three years and six months it did not rain on the earth. Then he prayed again, and heaven gave rain, and the earth bore its fruit.” (James 5:16-18 ESV)
If Elijah overcame momentary depression seeking God, why do Christians today need abundant psychological assistance that does not work?
If Elijah repulsed suicidal thoughts, why can’t pastors do this today?
Why should a pastor, who abandoned his two young sons, be considered as a man “positive, vibrant, and always serving and helping others”? By killing himself, he was not positive, vibrant and he did not help his young sons.
And by putting Jarrid with his history of severe depression and suicide thoughts in his pastoral staff to lead the young adult ministry, Greg Laurie did not help Jarrid and anyone else.
With information from CBN and Harvest.
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